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TooLiveBrew	The 'Other Big Ten Teams' thread		Lead	[-]
Posts: 189 October 31, 2009 4:50 PM	Tags : None I've meant to bring this up for a few weeks now, but I hadn't wanted to start a thread just on one team... so here's this thread. On to what's on my mind -- Michigan & Rich Rodriguez. While I understand there's the argument that he's implementing a new system, the results just aren't there at all so far. I guess what I'd like to ask those that'll know better than me, is how have Rodriguez's recruiting classes been? There's a lot of hype surrounding Tate Forcier, but I don't agree that he's a special player at QB -- he might fit the scheme well down the road, though. Last season was a bad one in Ann Arbor, and the Wolverines just don't look very good at all this year, either. Will Rich Rodriguez recruit & coach well enough to keep his job? How much leash does he have left without a gigantic turnaround in '09? 2008: 3-9 (2-6 Conf.) 2009: 5-4 (1-4 Conf.) ** to date I'll admit this may easily just be a knee-jerk response to watching UM get their butts handed to them at Illinois, but this wasn't the first UM game I've watched this season in which I wondered about these issues. "The leftfielder's not really responsible for a ball hit down the right field line" -- Tim McCarver (10/28/09)
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litesrn		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 279 November 1, 2009 11:34 AM	What surprises me is how bad their D is - Michigan, if nothing else, always had a solid D. And if Rich Rod hadn't been lucky enough to have Forcier play as well as he has as a frosh, how bad would they really be? It's gonna take them a while to return to prominence, and I'm not sure how long they will give Rodriguez. People the world over have always been more impressed by the power of our example than by the example of our power.
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PeaveyFury		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1438 November 1, 2009 12:46 PM President	Michigan's exposed mediocrity gives the Badgers a real chance to run the table here. Too bad they couldn't win vs either Iowa or OSU, or they'd have a legit shot at the conference title. And Michigan's fans/boosters aren't going to give Rodriguez a heck of a lot more time to get things figured out, either. Two horrible showings in the Big Ten so far leaves a lot of unrest in Ann Arbor. Mark Tauscher, MVP of the World.
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litesrn		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 280 November 1, 2009 1:24 PM	I'm more worried about next week at Indiana than I am with the Michigan game. What does that say, peavey? People the world over have always been more impressed by the power of our example than by the example of our power.
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T B0NE 10		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1014 November 1, 2009 2:14 PM	How did Purdue beat OSU? That showing yesterday was a joke.
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burniebrewer		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 78 November 1, 2009 8:16 PM	Poor Michigan.... ------------ "Kramer goes to a fantasy camp. His whole life is a fantasy camp. People should plunk down two-thousand dollars to live like him for a week. Do nothing, fall ass-backwards into money, mooch food off your neighbors, and have sex without dating. That's a fantasy camp!" --George Costanza
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colbyjack		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 194 November 1, 2009 8:31 PM Graphic Designer	Michigan made a huge mistake when they went away from their signature, pro-style offense that had made them so successful for so many years by falling for the gimmicky spread offense and Rodriguez. It's just not the Big Ten. Some teams have had some success with it, although not consistently, and if I were a fan of the Wolverines I would be pretty pissed off that the program took such a significant change of direction when they hired the guy. IMO, they have one more year to make it work. Last year he got his feet wet, this year he's working out the kinks while still proving to be dangerous, but next year there is going to be serious pressure for the team to make a notable bowl game. Between Notre Dame and Michigan, how the mighty have fallen in the upper Midwest. I was saying boo-urns
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Katuluu		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 164 November 1, 2009 9:56 PM LambeauLeap.net Moderator	If Michigan beats Ohio St they could go winless the rest of the year and he'd still keep his job. Consistently winning that game is what keeps Michigan's/OSU's head coach employed. Read my movie reviews, they suck something awesome. Where the Long Tail Ends - Watching what no one else does
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PeaveyFury		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1467 November 1, 2009 11:20 PM President	Michigan made a huge mistake when they went away from their signature, pro-style offense that had made them so successful for so many years by falling for the gimmicky spread offense and Rodriguez. It's just not the Big Ten. You'd think someone would realize that throwing the ball all over the field becomes a lot more difficult in the upper midwest in November and such than it is in Morgantown, WV. For example, Purdue's complete lack of a legitimate running attack completely screwed their offense as soon as it was cold and windy as heck at Camp Randall on Sunday. I think OSU and Michigan are both going to regret their system changes very much over the next few years. Mark Tauscher, MVP of the World.
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TooLiveBrew		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 192 November 2, 2009 6:13 PM	Thanks for the feedback, guys. Anyone familiar with how Rodriguez has been faring as a recruiter? I can see two sides to the spread offense coin: - 1) the questions that've been raised here regarding cold/inclement weather - 2) the idea that it's 'the new wave', and where college football offense is heading So with 2) in mind, I can see why Michigan 'fell for it' -- trying to stay ahead of the curve, or at least at the front of the curve. My point is that I'm not sure it's the system that's at fault, but a lack of talent for Michigan. "The leftfielder's not really responsible for a ball hit down the right field line" -- Tim McCarver (10/28/09)
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TooLiveBrew		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 207 November 7, 2009 4:28 PM	38-36 loss to Purdue at home today for Michigan (first Boilers win at UM since 1966). I have to imagine this will be Rodriguez's last season at the helm. "The leftfielder's not really responsible for a ball hit down the right field line" -- Tim McCarver (10/28/09)
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obsessedwithbrewcrew		#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 8 November 7, 2009 11:58 PM	I expect RR to get another year, but they need to do something about the defense. That being said, I couldn't be happier for Michigan. They essentially forced out Carr because he couldn't beat Ohio State, even though he had a strong record of success. It is not easy to win consistently in the Big Ten, there are too many good teams and the conference is strong from top to bottom. I really hope Ohio State fails to learn this lesson and gets rid of Tressel--maybe that would open the door for teams like Iowa and Wisconsin to compete for Big 10 titles. I am hoping for bad weather next Saturday but Wisconsin should have an easier time with Michigan than Indiana, and that's really sad. It is nice for the Big Ten to get an essential "championship game" this year, as the Iowa/OSU winner will almost certainly go to the Rose Bowl.
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Katuluu		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 165 November 8, 2009 11:32 PM LambeauLeap.net Moderator	OSU loves Tressel. He beats Michigan and they consistently play in the BCS. Read my movie reviews, they suck something awesome. Where the Long Tail Ends - Watching what no one else does
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danzig6767		#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 492 November 9, 2009 12:02 AM	PeaveyFury wrote: Michigan made a huge mistake when they went away from their signature, pro-style offense that had made them so successful for so many years by falling for the gimmicky spread offense and Rodriguez. It's just not the Big Ten. You'd think someone would realize that throwing the ball all over the field becomes a lot more difficult in the upper midwest in November and such than it is in Morgantown, WV. For example, Purdue's complete lack of a legitimate running attack completely screwed their offense as soon as it was cold and windy as heck at Camp Randall on Sunday. I think OSU and Michigan are both going to regret their system changes very much over the next few years. I'm not saying that for sure Rich Rodriguez will pan out, but his spread offense while at West Virginia was more run orientated than pass happy like Purdue is. They currently are third in total yards per game, first in rushing yards per game, and second in yards per carry in the Big Ten. Their biggest problem is their defense can't stop anybody.
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